As artists, VENUS GRRRLS want their music to stand for something. Their slogan – ‘grrrl as fuck’ – harks back to the riot grrrl movement of the ’90s. Fittingly, Venus is also the only planet named after a female god; it’s an entity that does things differently.
“It’s an attitude,” states GK. “It’s always a bit of a fine line we’ve wanted to walk with this, because ‘girls in alternative music’ is not a genre, and that’s a question we’ve come up against during our time as a band.
“That’s not the selling point of us,” she adds. “It’s more pointing to the lack of representation of other genders in the music industry. It is often still quite male-dominated. That’s what ‘grrrl as fuck’ is about; it’s very riot grrrl-oriented. That’s what we started as and that’s the attitude we carry as a band.”
The four of them nod in agreement. They’re incredibly proud of the way they work together; everyone chips in, everyone is heard, and no idea is a stupid one. Creatively, it’s liberating.
“After being in a band with men, I can say this is the best work environment I’ve ever had!” says Hannah.
“We’re unashamedly honest,” adds Eliza. “[That’s] so important when you’re in that environment, because you do sometimes have to be cut-throat. Was it Stephen King that said, ‘To be a great writer you have to be unafraid to kill your darlings’? Everyone needs to feel free to speak if they feel they’re not resonating with something.”
“There’s a lot of experimentation which is really important, especially when there’s five of you,” adds Grace. “Our background with riot grrrl and empowering women, I think that bleeds through how we work together. None of us are putting each other into a box.”
With drummer Alannagh Doherty of Derry pop-punk band Cherym now joining VENUS GRRRLS in the studio and onstage, they’re in a flow state. This democratic creative bubble has been nurtured by Max Helyer of You Me At Six, who is working with the band as a producer. They describe him as a “kind, warm ray of sunshine” with “pure golden retriever” energy. Not a bad endorsement.
It was Max who produced Eighteen Crows, and though the track was written during GK’s cancer treatment, it’s not about cancer itself. It’s actually rather universal.
“It’s about wanting change, wanting to be away from the situation you’re in, which I think anyone can relate to at some point in their life,” says GK. “And we’re all goths – we love a crow!
“Some of the very early lyrics were written whilst I was in hospital on chemo. It was literally two lines I had scribbled in my notes on my phone, and it was born of this fantasy that I would become something different to what I was in that current moment. I was quite unwell on a lot of medication. I would just be laying there looking out the window, and became obsessed with the idea of becoming a crow.
“I didn’t touch it for a long time. About a year ago, I sat down with a guitar and I put it into a really strange tuning and started playing with the chords. I found those lyrics and wrote [the rest] probably in about 15 minutes. It all just came out. To this day, it’s the only song that’s made me cry as I’ve written it.”
In times of difficulty, be it through a physical challenge or a mental one, we don’t want things to end, we want them to be different. Leaning into their fascination with all things occult, could it be said that VENUS GRRRLS also use the stage to shift into a different version of themselves as a form of escape?
“I felt like I was stepping into a persona before I had my cancer experience. I would see my stage persona and me as wildly different, but now not so much,” replies GK. “The music since [then] has been so vulnerable and raw that a lot of the time, I do feel like I’m being who I am, which [is] lovely.”
“The only time I’ve ever felt like I’m trying to shapeshift and put on a fake persona is when I had to go to a day job,” admits Eliza. “The stage is the real thing, but paying the rent is the persona!”
Having to put on your phony customer service voice when you’d rather chew glass is always a fun time. While Eliza was formerly a waitress, GK worked in a department store.
“I’m dyspraxic. My first job was in the china and glass department. I destroyed a lot of stuff…”